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Interview by Joe Leonard-Walters | Edited by Passion DzengaLaunching in 2021, Echobox has been forging a path for community radio by showcasing the diverse characters and concepts that surround them. In this feature, we will be looking into a few of the broadcasts that you can tune into so get locked in and don’t touch that dial.From one-half of Black Cadmium to the mastermind behind GLXY Records, Joginda is a force to be reckoned with in the electronic music scene. Known for his no-filter, everything-goes approach, his creative energy flows through every project he touches — from label releases and radio shows to curating unforgettable club nights."It's just an illusion, nothing is real," he says, channeling his instinctive, gut-driven vision into GLXY, a label dedicated to championing fresh talent while pushing sonic boundaries. With his Fam. event series set to debut during the International Film Festival Rotterdam, Joginda is creating a space where emerging artists stand shoulder-to-shoulder with seasoned pros, reigniting the essence of the underground club scene.We caught up with him to talk about the philosophy driving GLXY, what makes a great club night, his dream radio guest, and what’s next for the label. You can catch up with this show now on Echobox Radio.GLXY is going from strength to strength with new releases, radio shows and now your FAM events. What's the vision that ties it all together?GLXY is still a young label, so I’m definitely still finding my footing. But right now, my vision for GLXY Recs is to strike a balance between showcasing fresh, emerging talent and more seasoned artists who have a unique sound — or simply a vibe I love playing in my sets. Eventually, I want to push the boundaries and release more experimental music on the label too. I tend to be pretty impulsive with these decisions, letting my gut guide me.The GLXY radio show, on the other hand, is where I get to spotlight what’s coming up on the label while also sharing tracks from new artists who send me demos. If I vibe with their sound and it fits with who I am as a DJ, I make it a point to give them a platform.Fam. is a concept I’ve been wanting to launch for a while now — even back in my Black Cadmium days. But with everything I’m already doing — DJing, running the label, hosting the radio show — I had to find the right moment and collaborators to make it happen. Now, I’ve teamed up with GIRLS, a young artist and DJ collective from Rotterdam, and on January 31st, during the International Film Festival Rotterdam, we’re finally bringing Fam. to life.The idea behind Fam. is about creating a space for emerging talent to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with established artists from GLXY Recs. For this first edition, we’ve got Panda Lassow and Prince Pasensi headlining the GLXY stage, alongside a lineup that blends fresh faces with seasoned performers. It’s a night where the energy of the next generation meets the experience of the pros.What do you think makes a good club night?Good, affordable club nights are rare these days. But for me, what really makes a club night great is when there’s a balance in the lineup — fresh talent mixed with more established names — and if that’s paired with an enthusiastic crowd, that’s the perfect combo.I come from the club scene myself, and I’d love to see a stronger focus on that again, rather than these massive festivals that are almost impossible to afford for the new and upcoming generation of ravers. With this club night, we’re trying to do our part to bring that energy back. If you could invite anyone (alive or dead) as a guest on your show, who would it be?These questions are always tricky for me because you end up naming someone who probably doesn’t need any extra attention. That’s usually how it goes, right? But if I were to invite someone from the more established names, it would definitely be Skee Mask. I’m a huge fan of him as both a DJ and producer, and I find myself appreciating his work more and more, especially his productions. I’d love to have him play a show sometime, who knows :)How do you use your show to showcase GLXY records?With the GLXY radio show, I really try to create a space where the sound and vision of the label come to life. It’s where I showcase upcoming releases from GLXY Records and give listeners a taste of what’s to come. But it’s not just about what’s already on the label — I also use the show to highlight fresh talent and new music from artists who send me demos. If their sound fits the vibe of the label and my sets, I’ll make sure to feature them. For me, the show is about building a connection between the label, the music, and the wider scene — it’s like a sonic diary of where GLXY is heading. What's next for the label?I’ve just finished my own EP, so logically, that could be the next release on the label. But I’ve also got some amazing producers lined up for the coming year. Like I mentioned before, I’m pretty impulsive in how I work, so the exact release order isn’t set in stone yet. Ultimately, though, I want the freedom to put my own music out there whenever it feels right, while continuing to push the sounds and artists that inspire me.From adventurous electronic music label topo2: label head, music enthusiast, avid vinyl & mp3 collector/tracklist fundamentalist, Bert de Rooij (previously hosting under his bertbert cloak), will juxtapose music from every corner of the 'experimental' electronic music spectrum. With more than 20 years behind the decks, this seasoned DJ and curator has built a career on pushing the boundaries of experimental electronic music. From his early bertbert radio show to the creation of topo2, his new label and creative platform, his ethos has always been about championing fresh sounds and breaking free from genre constraints.  In this interview, we delve into his passion for radio as an art form, the obsessive attention to detail that defines his craft (spoiler: tracklists are non-negotiable), and how his love of electronic music informs the vision for topo2. As a label, blog, and newsletter, topo2 is more than just a platform for releases — it’s a space to celebrate everything that makes up the beautifully niche corners of the electronic music ecosystem.  We also discuss his proudest achievements, including the debut release from upsammy, and what’s next as he prepares to drop even more boundary-pushing sounds. You can catch up with this show now on Echobox Radio.Your show has a very clear ethos - why is it so important to push the freshest experimental electronic music?I actually think it’s not always as clear to the world as it is in my own head. topo2, and previously my bertbert radio show, are basically outlets for me to share music that I’m enthusiastic about in a mix format. Being a DJ for more than 20 years now, I still think mixtapes or radio shows are the best format to appreciate electronic music outside of an event. An hour of radio or a dedicated mixtape creates a new piece of art in itself and brings a different context to all the different tracks in the set. My ethos has always been trying not to be scared by genres when DJ’ing. I would describe my taste as quite broad within the spectrum of niche electronic music, but I tend to spend most of my time listening to “electronica”, ““experimental”” (that one just deserves two pairs of air quotes), and “ambient”. Do expect some dancefloor-oriented house, techno, and bass music too.What's the nerdiest thing on your USB?Waving the nerd-flag myself feels a bit uncomfortable, but there are interesting things on my USB for sure. I have a few playlists with dedicated loops or vocals, drum patterns, and sometimes just a 1/4 hi-hat that I really like that I can use as layers over other tracks as they’re going.What’s not on my USB but addresses the spirit of the question is my obsession with tracklists. I have debated this with a lot of people, but I think they are mandatory for every mix out there except for when you’re solely playing your own music. I think you should take every chance to platform art that you’re wild about, and more importantly, as a DJ, you are building your art from the fruits of others.You've just started a new label; how much does this ethos inform your vision for topo2?It’s basically the same! The topo2 world gives me the chance to do a bit more than only playing music, though. Navigating a label within the music industry usually is done from a kinda strict point of view, only communicating on the label’s output. With topo2, I like to broaden the scope to the wider ecosystem and be enthusiastic about everything that forms this silly corner of the music spectrum.I’m releasing music on a myriad of formats, and I can blog about music I like on my website. I also started a monthly newsletter where I recommend music that caught my ear. I hope to both engage with fellow music heads that already recognize most of the music and curious minds that are not in the know about what’s in some random niche pocket of the electronic music spectrum.You say that your label is about exciting music, whether you've released it or not - what's most exciting to you at the moment?The volume of good and interesting music being released! Just a few examples here below. Other than that, I’m still super proud of the first release by upsammy on the label I did last November! I can’t wait to drop the next three releases I’ve worked on for the last year and a half. More news on that soon!Tune in to Echobox - broadcasting from below sea level every week, Thursday until Sunday.

Interview by Joe Leonard-Walters | Edited by Passion DzengaLaunching in 2021, Echobox has been forging a path for community radio by showcasing the diverse characters and concepts that surround them. In this feature, we will be looking into a few of the broadcasts that you can tune into so get locked in and don’t touch that dial.Feel all the feelings: in Hysteria, angelboy plays music that evokes a different emotion every month. You can catch up with this show now on Echobox Radio. Your show plays on emotions and the way we experience them from music - why was important that your show is so personal?I’ve always been someone who feels things deeply (for my astrology girlies: Pisces and water signs DOWN). Emotions are at the core of everything I do, but for a long time, I felt like they were something to tone down. This show became my way of doing the opposite — of cherishing and exploring feelings through music.Besides that, I don’t like to be bound by genres. It makes no sense for me to structure music based on what elements a song has, but rather what it does to you while listening to it. With Hysteria, I wanted to create something that people could use to either shift their mood or fully lean into their emotions. Whether it’s to go from feeling annoyed to finding joy or to dive into grief, embrace it, and hopefully find relief afterward. What's the most hysterical track on your USB?‘Meaning what exactly’ by Coil: a captivating, eerie, and melancholic track that lends itself for many emotional interpretations – as the title implies. I think that is the beauty of music: it can evoke different feelings in everyone, based on taste or experiences. Hysteria thrives on this idea, with guest shows often flipping my own perspective. A song I might find sad could feel euphoric to someone else. With Hysteria you start to hear music not just through your own lens, but through someone else’s emotional state, and it shifts the way you experience it. Is there as much emotion in your DJ sets and productions as your radio shows?Definitely, but in a different way. While Hysteria is about one emotional theme, in my DJ sets I want to guide people through multiple emotions. I often start with tracks that spark curiosity, then slip into more repetitive rhythms that feel meditative, and then it’s about balancing feelings of ecstasy with rougher feelings like frustration or anger. By the end, I aim for a sense of release, leaving you somewhere different from where we started. As well as an Echobox resident, you’re a published author. How does your show relate to your writing?Music and writing are two sides of the same coin for me — they both evoke emotions in unique ways. I always feature poetry in my shows because, like music, it distills feelings into their purest form. A few words can spark something profound, just like a melody or sound. What I love most is how both leave space for interpretation, encouraging listeners or readers to bring their own experiences into the mix. Hysteria is about blending these forms, offering both sound and text as a way to make emotions resonate.Screamo Listening Sessions is a monthly radio show with Marvin Schippmann and more: amplifying emotional & daring music with a lot of screaming. You can catch up with this show now on Echobox Radio.Turns out it isn't just a phase - how did your love affair with screamo start?In the mid-2000’s, when I was between 15 and 16 years old and myspace was still around - I began my journey into the realm of heavier music, and started listening to more punk, hardcore, (mainstream) emo (think of My Chemical Romance) as well as also a lot of metalcore which was all extremely popular at the time. At the time, I had a full-on “scene” phase with black dyed hair, eyeliner and skinny jeans - and most heavy music was introduced to me through friends from school or concerts, bands linking other bands on their myspace page, printed magazines - and of course live shows and festivals’ line-ups. Most festivals were either too expensive for me to visit or far away such as in the US (thinking of Vans Warped Tour, etc.), but I still used the line-ups on festival posters as reference for bands to check out. Ultimately, I still ended up listening to a lot of the heavy music for the mainstream throughout my teenage years and only very little of the music and the shows I experienced in Germany (mainly in Hamburg) during my teenage years, retained much the DIY ethos, honesty, depth and radical form of emotional expression, which were and are essential to screamo and the DIY community. Although there are numerous and important DIY spaces in Hamburg, it took me a while to get to know about them and even longer to get familiar with people involved.    It was actually years later, after I moved to Amsterdam, started studying and eventually began an internship at Patta - that my love for heavy music and in particular screamo would be reignited. I properly fell in love with screamo rather late, in my mid-20’s - when I started to explore more of the genuine roots of the mainstream music I was fed /consumed during my teenage years. For the past 7 years, screamo has been with me every day - and thanks to Echobox I have been able to proclaim my love and admiration for this genre, heavy music as well as DIY culture in public with Screamo Listening Sessions every four weeks, for the past three years. Do you find catharsis in the intense music, or is the rest of your life just as intense?Yes - there is definitely something cathartic about intense music, whether it is screamo, metal, dub or techno. I have been working at Patta for the past 9 years and it is never boring - and especially in busier periods and even stressful moments, music has always functioned as ventile. In particular, feeling overwhelmed and being able to let go of this feeling until feeling at ease with everything (even despite everything) - are two recurring states I find myself in when experiencing intense music, especially at live events. In the process of letting go and accepting being utterly overwhelmed, I often find myself most at ease and in sync with the music around me.    I am actually rather an introvert person and often admire others for their ability to express themselves and convey meaningful thoughts and/or emotions in form of words & essentially sounds. However, moving along with music or dancing to music is a way I feel like I can express myself and give appreciation to music & musicians - so music becomes an important catalyst for expressing my own emotions and thoughts even if it is only through movements. Especially screamo (done well) is able to convey emotions, thoughts and/or opinions that one can empathise and identify with whether or not I actually understand all of the lyrics right away. I am not saying that the lyrical content is irrelevant, quite the opposite is the case (once again if done well - IMO). In this dynamic there is a strong element of identifying with each other on a human level - and confronting each other with the emotions, opinions and/or worries (even trauma - yet also joy & love) we might share - through music even though (or maybe because) most vocals are screamed. Do you have a favourite memory from hosting your show?Sorry, I have a bunch…Such as having all three members of the band, Apousia - for a live broadcast on the show - is a very special memory. Two band members, Luna and Farah - were able to join in person in the studio and drummer Assia - was calling in remotely.  Meeting & interviewing Pierce, GG, TJ and Leon from Soul Glo together with Passion is also high up there. The guest feature with Vincent Shore from Second Guessing, Karnabahar, GGGOLDDD which was the first guest feature with an in-studio guest during live broadcast.If you could pick one track to get someone into screamo, what would it be?“Tigersuit” by Raein Any plans to take the listening sessions offline and in-person? What does the future hold?Earlier this year, friends, Danny and Joran - from the band Dooie Mus and Dooie Mug Booking and I booked a show with Vibora, Oscuro Culto and Apousia at the OCCII - which was a very special experience with three incredible bands.I would love to keep booking more shows and help to get more bands to come play in Amsterdam and NL - and I am looking forward to getting more involved in this soon. I am also volunteering at the OCCII in Amsterdam - and am planning a recurring series of Screamo Listening Sessions with take-over episodes by people who are also involved and affiliated with the OCCII and the local DIY community.These take-over episodes might not feature any screamo - and can have any musical direction or radio show concept, depending on who is sitting in or taking over.  This way I hope that Screamo Listening Sessions can also be a platform for the local DIY community, since screamo as a genre is rooted in DIY culture and depending on its existence.The first edition of the OCCII take-overs will be broadcasted live on the 28th November - and I am excited to welcome Apostolis from World’s Appreciated Kitsch at the Echobox studio for this.  

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